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Jacob Holland
Gallente Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.09 21:50:00 -
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I'm still working through the thread but...
The most dependable energy source would indeed be cosmic background radiation. Although another possibility is the Hawking radiation from the remains of EVE Gate, assuming a better understanding of the Gate than ours.
The most efficient means would be a Dyson Sphere, and I'm struck by the possibility that "Mirror" may be a reference to something of that design.
A rather silly idea has occurred to me though... In a world so heavily driven by visual rather than auditory cues the evolution of the word denim would not have occurred in the same manner. Instead we would be faced by transcription errors and guessed smudges... The Cyrillic alphabet adds an extra factor to this (familiar though the "mistranslation" of the acronym for the USSR as CCCP rather than SSSR). Combine this with the way many Cyrillic characters look backwards to those familiar with Latin characters and the name "Mirror"... --
Originally by: cordy
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Jacob Holland
Gallente Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.13 19:15:00 -
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Because we can speculate almost forever as to how the various 'ancient' races relate to each other I'm going to try to separate some of the theory...
I'll begin with two parties at war, the first party is defeated by the second but there is no intention by the second party to commit genocide against the first.
The resurgence of the first party cannot be allowed however so the second party places the first in an oubliette, locks them away where they can be forgotten and where (hopefully) they would wither and die (Anoikis).
What strikes me about wormhole space in overview, is that it seems to be dominated by dead and dying stars. Of course even a black hole theoretically emits Hawking Radiation so it's not a death sentence to a race which is expert in and dependent on the exploitation of solar energy but it would certainly force them to ration their energy use.
I haven't gone through the static data dump, but how many stars there are young blues? stars which would be a source of Isogen-5?
Fast forward a little, the second party is at (stealthy) war with a third. The third party is aware of the first party and works on the principle that the enemy of our enemy is our 'friend', the third party subverts existing assets outside (or at least ostensibly outside) the second party to assemble a key to the oubliette and Seylin's star goes pop.
To address a few comments and questions I've run across in the thread.
Seylin I was shattered by the detonation of its star. There are several shattered planets in EVE. Therefore all of these planets were shattered by the detonation of their stars.
This is a fallacy of the undisputed middle. The shattered planet in Jove space for example might well have been destroyed by a Jovian superweapon for example, others may have been destroyed long before Seylin...
Jove ships, or at least TomB's Eidelon, favour Shields and Lasers in the manner of the Sansha - their 8-8-8 slot layout allows a strong shield tank with lots of damage mods.
The Bright Star appeared simultaneously in every system in EVE. The distance across the cluster is significant - dotlan places it at a little over 105 lightyears north to south. The Bright star must therefore have crossed 105 light years in a matter of hours (it was a quick patch as I recall) and therefore must have travelled at at least two hundred thousand times the speed of light. It was probably also visible in wormhole space (had such a thing existed at the time) and may have provided a much needed power boost to the occupants. It would have been a pretty good signal to a bunch of prisoners that a prison break is imminent... --
Originally by: cordy
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Jacob Holland
Gallente Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.13 22:22:00 -
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It's important to remember that the Jovian Disease is not like a dose of influenza. It is a genetic instability and causes symptoms which seem to be entirely psychological.
Obviously I don't know as much about genetics as the Jove did (or even as much as they still do) but that suggests to me that it is more like a congenital deformity than an infection, passed to the next generation rather than by contact. By extension that suggests that it is not a viable biological weapon and nor is it something you can catch, it is simply ticking away in your genetic code like a depressive time bomb.
It is also worth bearing in mind that the Jovian Disease is not (according to those sources we have available) transmissible outside the Jovian race and therefore cannot be the Kyonoke Pit "virus". --
Originally by: cordy
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Jacob Holland
Gallente Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.14 07:48:00 -
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As I recall it was more an unintended release than a bug in the usual sense. I seem to remember the news item/dev blog saying that it hadn't been supposed to be there yet.
The bright star was in a consistent location across the cluster, it was an unusual shape (which suggests that it wasn't just a sky box point which had its luminosity decimal point moved). That doesn't seem to fit the profile of a classic bug - but, of course, only CCP know for sure --
Originally by: cordy
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Jacob Holland
Gallente Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.20 21:08:00 -
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I like the Horus link, I don't have any supporting evidence for it but I do like it.
Sleeper drones using armour only: One huge advantage of armour over shields is that armour is entirely passive until damaged. An armour plate would require no power to maintain throughout the millenia barring routine maintainence to repair micrometeoroid strikes. By contrast shields require a constant expenditure of power, not in capacitor terms as we capsuleers tend to consider it but nevertheless.
While the Terran artifact could have something to do with it I personally doubt it, the impression we're given after all is that the Talocan and subsequently the Sleepers had as little knowledge of the original Terrans as we do.
What's more suprising is that we can salvage very powerful shield emitters from these shieldless drones. If their entire shielding systems were offline to conserve power then that would make a certain degree of sense but...
Regarding the roles on some of the labs in the Oruze enclave:
I dismissed the idea after someone posted the actual definition in this thread... but the grouping just doesn't quite fit as I recall it. I'm thinking of Non-natural Teleology. I haven't been able to get the instant link my brain though up to Telomeres, the bits at the ends of a gene chain which allow it to divide and replicate without errors. The other labs in the structure seem to be in a similar vain, Virtual Mutation, Emergent Systems Design... and with Virtual genetics as the heading... If all this refered to the genetics of virtual systems rather than the virtual study of genetics then we could be looking at an AI lab...
Create a program which writes its own replacement and seeks to improve its progeny down through the generations and by Iteration 'x' you have true AI, allow it to continue on without error and without degradation and perhaps you have an intelligence profound enough to access EVE Gate, find a way out of your prison...etc.
Without error or degradation is the trick though. --
Originally by: cordy
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Jacob Holland
Gallente Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.24 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Veryez The 2 unanswered questions to me are why were the sleepers studying Terrans? And why weren't they studying the jove (who would have been around at that time)?
Why do we study the Maya, the Romans, the Greeks...etc and not pay all that much attention to our next door neighbours?
Assuming that the races were (in some way) contemporaries then bear in mind that the superiority of Jove technology to our technology is not mirrored by the them, Jove tech was just a different approach, possibly slightly inferior at the time. --
Originally by: cordy
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